44 gal drum for fuel transport

 Hi all

Does anyone use a 44 gal drum on the boat for extended trips?

Im planning for the monties trip in a few months and trying to sort out how to carry all the extra fuel i was going to get another fuel tank built under the floor but i very much doubt i would use it again so not keen on outlaying the cash for it. And 25 jerries will be ugly on the boat.

So im thinking of taking 1x 44 gal drum as i recon we will use 200l getting over there so empty it as soon as we are there and then the rest in jerries.

Whats your thoughts??

Cheers

Rod


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 What size boat? 200 is a lot

Sun, 2016-01-31 18:29

 What size boat? 200 is a lot of fuel to use on the way over.

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 Its a 7.5m jackman 6mm plate

Sun, 2016-01-31 18:47

 Its a 7.5m jackman 6mm plate all around and is 2.6m wide with twin 225 yamahas so its a fairly heavy boat but rides excellent and handles everything i can through at it. i generally average .9km to the litre but it can get to .7km per litre on average conditions and we will be fairly heavy going over. So i would like to take around 900l i have 440 under the deck and the rest on top.

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i get down to .7kml in

Sun, 2016-01-31 20:03

i get down to .7kml in average conditons with my single so thats pretty good !

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44's

Sun, 2016-01-31 18:51

 I use to put one of those blue plastic 44's on my boat all the time to do extended trips up the Kimberly .

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 They are used in the

Sun, 2016-01-31 18:54

 They are used in the kimberlies all the time.  A lot of people empty them then punch a few holes in them and sink them out to sea. They are an absolute pain in the arse though while full

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Mon, 2016-02-01 07:23

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Just did Cairns to PNG

Sun, 2016-01-31 19:00

1 x 44 on the bow, 1 x 44 on the marlin board and 30 jerry cans down the sides. The extra 1000L was needed on top of the 2200L in the boats tanks. That was diesel and I wouldn't do it with petrol, maybe you could tow a tinny with a 44 in it, on a very long rope

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 It must be one big bloody

Sun, 2016-01-31 19:07

 It must be one big bloody boat....

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50 ft twin 500 detroits

Sun, 2016-01-31 19:12

Allowed for 20% reserve after a few detours

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Plastic

Sun, 2016-01-31 19:02

 That's why the plastic ones are the go when there empty they can be tied on the roof and they don't scratch the boat up I had the same two for about five years only thing I had to do was get new seals for lids they don't last that long other than that one giant jerry can . 

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 Yeah thats why i was

Sun, 2016-01-31 19:06

 Yeah thats why i was thinking of using a plastic one if i decide to do it this way. how does everyone get the fuel out being petrol just use a jiggle syphon?? 

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No smoking

Sun, 2016-01-31 19:07

 Definatly no. Smoking on the boat 

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 60 litre drums are much

Sun, 2016-01-31 19:08

 60 litre drums are much easier to handle on the boat and can be moved around if need be

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+1 for the 60 Litre

Sun, 2016-01-31 20:00

+1 for the 60 Litre drums.
Try spray painters, they usually get thinners in them but are sometimes reluctant to part with them.
Good luck.

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Drum pum

Sun, 2016-01-31 19:08

 Manual drum pump I use 

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1 ltr

Sun, 2016-01-31 19:09

 Every turn easy

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 I didnt think drum pumps

Sun, 2016-01-31 19:13

 I didnt think drum pumps were safe to use with unleaded...

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They are ok to be used if...

Tue, 2016-02-02 20:10

 you take the necessary precautions. Like any fuel unleaded can be transferred by hand pump so long as you you take into account static electricity which is created with the fuel running thru the hose. The faster the fuel is transferred the more static electricity will be created. Simply run an earth wire from the drum pump to the fuel inlet.

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 Thats interesting, up and

Tue, 2016-02-02 20:17

 Thats interesting, up and dogleg thats the only way they transfer fuel for many years no earth wire ! I can see the logic in that but!

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Hey Vinesh

Tue, 2016-02-02 20:26

 Thats the way we do it on the rigs when transferring fuel to the lifeboats and also the fast rescue boats, normally its not from drums but when on remote sites that is what is done. Especially when refueling the helicopters. Earth lead gets plugged in first and removed last. In some cases the hoses have the earth wire enclosed in part of the make up of the hose and attached at each end to the coupling and nozzle. Temp and humidity also play a big part when it comes to static electricity.

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Holy shit

Tue, 2016-02-02 21:08

 I've pumped a ton of unleaded through my drum pump with no earth lead with no probs might need to look into that . 

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60's

Sun, 2016-01-31 19:14

 Are good but hard to find especially in plastic and hard to lash down 44 I find is easy to lash as it usually sits higher than gunwale rail also depends how much you like the paint job on your boat .

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Pump with a handle you wind

Sun, 2016-01-31 19:15

 Should be ok I'm still here pumped many a drum into my boat 

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Empty the drum in one go

Sun, 2016-01-31 19:16

No baffles in the drum you dont want the fuel sloshing about

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 Yeah it would defenatly be

Sun, 2016-01-31 19:18

 Yeah it would defenatly be emptied in one go. And if for some reason i couldnt it would be taken off the boat.

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Yes have seen 44's used in

Sun, 2016-01-31 20:03

Yes have seen 44's used in the kimberlies, does the trick with a manual pump but generally have used 60l drums. They are easy to move and easy to lift onto the gunwhale and siphon into the main tank and then put on the roof!

 

 

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I would look at using one of

Sun, 2016-01-31 21:30

I would look at using one of these if it were me.
No idea on cost but would have to be safer and more convenient than a 44.
http://www.turtlepac.com/

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 I was just about to write

Sun, 2016-01-31 22:01

 I was just about to write bladders. Collapsible, re-usable and a little bit easier to work with.

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 With the price of bladders i

Mon, 2016-02-01 07:38

 With the price of bladders i cound put a 400l tank in for a similar cost.

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Fair enough

Tue, 2016-02-02 12:03

Fair enough

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Blue plastic 44

Mon, 2016-02-01 15:56

 Ran a blue plastic 44 in a 5.7 Quinnie to the Monties about 10 yrs ago. Man handled it off when we got there onto the beach where we camped. Made a custom full length pickup from 3/8" stainless tube and CAREFULLY pressurised the 44 with air compressor - didn't take much to get the fuel flowing and could run long hose from 44 to the boat. Would i do it again like that? Probably, bladders would be nice but to expensive.

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Drum pump

Tue, 2016-02-02 17:30

 I can lend you my drum pump when you go no probs .